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38.

SAMBEL & CO

TELEGRAPHIC ADDRESS. LEUMAS,LONDON

TELEPHONE N 4362

TELEGRAPHIC CODES USKO

A.B.C. 4th Ed. Scott's Code 6 Ed? 1885

UEL SAMUEL & CO

BAT:

HAMA. KOBE & TOKID

JAPAN

Vie Brindisi,

TEGRAPHIC ADDRESS.

GRGOMANES.

C. Q.

16254

31. Houndsliteli. 678

Londenz

EU.

R15 400 921

To the Honorable G.J.). Of Brien, C.1% G»,

HOK KONG

Ivoy to dqisser winsɗt ditw egbalwories of ovari of brojajunä bral dent misal of Jerzer basdant d3II edt To Toddal beszorg of bewoLis eď yan how add jarid arroldoetib diqstzelet Jonrı,33 on rotriwędroger end to tqteser anthaeq,anol anok is alast TWO NO „Joe tdwa en no tmeɛ asd fortevoð er tduob noidserroint TentII 8*qirabzql aid Tot vaolone won el

ja visteIoe2 Istnolo) end of beaaeïbbs noljijog Teddwt s to yqoo tært god vifaerrise misgs ew bus otetadt yiqez wo bis,300X зOH atri ao nooa as Torievod end of bedqstgelet ed yam anottovitant navoIni Jand Jaeger of au woLIA „Jos of nottisoq a mi at qidabrol erd bevotae evari ow,e01770 malotou erf yd au revig qied Islbtos ord LIIw voy as bas,nsqst ni zajatniMMH 10 Sonodataas vilt to ogsinsvba yerid,sol770 asteroï et yd beraat somebroqaerioo to vgoo end ya oea Joetava er dittw JabETOVNICO VINguoTodd 918

of nottmedis a'qiɗabrof atɗ LIso Vilstoeqa blow ev

mt,.00 [anso seu2ent to arodberta eri yu noqu Jlewb Jost ord -990 Jaum alsaaev eni joritaremseja ert to egsaasq end gntattorit us -BLINSİTOY well Teddie¿¿roq betsluge Llew emoa ♫ bebsol ed vitrsaae bris,133 Lordið to aðtos32 ert beaang over yadd tud avots To Strigleb IIIw vent ano ano to 9880 arit ok bns,viavijoeqaer asIlenobisï ede „Iais) seul end aasq od svar

edt deɗt yea of ged ow noticariott aʻqtfabrol sin 107 anotast is brus,odiolo) is Ivodiad end at Isco of bewolls ers aromsoja qinabtol sin agonistamworto saert zebnu jau eV .e1oqsan12 je rezsi qmơng vd aử bis IIIw bas noltiaoggo art to ezuten ent odsloeïqqs IIIv rok as --112 IS80.eis +W ‚ansviða Jnelbedo IVOY

Si,-

We beg to confirm our last letter to you of the 6th inst., and find we omitted to answer one further point raised by your petitioners viz, the explosion on the s.s. 'Petrolia' near Blaye. We beg to inform you that this was caused by crude oil from vilchi every explosion on a tank steamer live chison, and as you know, both the Quay regulations & the rules prevailing at Hong Kong itself, ensure that only refined Petroleum is carried on tank steamers.

We have now before us the Arthur memorial under date of July 1st.,1922. There is no point in this which is not fully dealt with in the copy of correspondence published by the Foreign Office, a copy of which we addressed to you by last mail, and you will at once see that your memorialists have been arguing upon entirely false premises. The trade at present carried on in cases is doubtless far more dangerous to shipping (if indeed there is any danger) than is the transit in bulk. The reason of the inception of the bulk business is the proved risk arising from shipping oil in the rail packages in which it now travels, leakage having in some instances amounted to twenty-per-cent. This, as a matter of fact within our knowledge, oil is at present carried 'in bulk' viz,-from accumulation of leakage during the voyage, in steamers absolutely unfit for this. It permeates below the ceiling and down into the bilges, besides frequently saturating the greater part of the cargo of wooden cases with oil, rendering them highly inflammable.

A steamer with the quantity of cases a Tank Steamer carries would be about 20 days discharging, with the grave risk of collision to lighters, taking those dangerous packages from the ship to the shore, and again handling them there. Whereas the cargo of a tank steamer is never for a single moment exposed but goes direct from the vessel, through pipes, into the tanks, and this in a space of less than 24 hours as compared with 20 days occupied by a cargo of cases.

The fallacy of your memorialists' arguments cannot...

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Page 63 38. SAMBEL & CO TELEGRAPHIC ADDRESS. LEUMAS,LONDON TELEPHONE N 4362 TELEGRAPHIC CODES USKO A.B.C. 4th Ed. Scott's Code 6 Ed? 1885 UEL SAMUEL & CO BAT: HAMA. KOBE & TOKID JAPAN Vie Brindisi, TEGRAPHIC ADDRESS. GRGOMANES. C. Q. 16254 31. Houndsliteli. 678 Londenz EU. R15 400 921 To the Honorable G.J.). Of Brien, C.1% G», HOK KONG Ivoy to dqisser winsɗt ditw egbalwories of ovari of brojajunä bral dent misal of Jerzer basdant d3II edt To Toddal beszorg of bewoLis yan how add jarid arroldoetib diqstzelet Jonrı,33 on rotriwędroger end to tqteser anthaeq,anol anok is alast TWO NO „Joe tdwa en no tmeɛ asd fortevoð er tduob noidserroint TentII 8*qirabzql aid Tot vaolone won el ja visteIoe2 Istnolo) end of beaaeïbbs noljijog Teddwt s to yqoo tært god vifaerrise misgs ew bus otetadt yiqez wo bis,300X зOH atri ao nooa as Torievod end of bedqstgelet ed yam anottovitant navoIni Jand Jaeger of au woLIA „Jos of nottisoq a mi at qidabrol erd bevotae evari ow,e01770 malotou erf yd au revig qied Islbtos ord LIIw voy as bas,nsqst ni zajatniMMH 10 Sonodataas vilt to ogsinsvba yerid,sol770 asteroï et yd beraat somebroqaerioo to vgoo end ya oea Joetava er dittw JabETOVNICO VINguoTodd 918 of nottmedis a'qiɗabrof atɗ LIso Vilstoeqa blow ev mt,.00 [anso seu2ent to arodberta eri yu noqu Jlewb Jost ord -990 Jaum alsaaev eni joritaremseja ert to egsaasq end gntattorit us -BLINSİTOY well Teddie¿¿roq betsluge Llew emoa bebsol ed vitrsaae bris,133 Lordið to aðtos32 ert beaang over yadd tud avots To Strigleb IIIw vent ano ano to 9880 arit ok bns,viavijoeqaer asIlenobisï ede „Iais) seul end aasq od svar edt deɗt yea of ged ow noticariott aʻqtfabrol sin 107 anotast is brus,odiolo) is Ivodiad end at Isco of bewolls ers aromsoja qinabtol sin agonistamworto saert zebnu jau eV .e1oqsan12 je rezsi qmơng vd aử bis IIIw bas noltiaoggo art to ezuten ent odsloeïqqs IIIv rok as --112 IS80.eis +W ‚ansviða Jnelbedo IVOY Si,- We beg to confirm our last letter to you of the 6th inst., and find we omitted to answer one further point raised by your petitioners viz, the explosion on the s.s. 'Petrolia' near Blaye. We beg to inform you that this was caused by crude oil from vilchi every explosion on a tank steamer live chison, and as you know, both the Quay regulations & the rules prevailing at Hong Kong itself, ensure that only refined Petroleum is carried on tank steamers. We have now before us the Arthur memorial under date of July 1st.,1922. There is no point in this which is not fully dealt with in the copy of correspondence published by the Foreign Office, a copy of which we addressed to you by last mail, and you will at once see that your memorialists have been arguing upon entirely false premises. The trade at present carried on in cases is doubtless far more dangerous to shipping (if indeed there is any danger) than is the transit in bulk. The reason of the inception of the bulk business is the proved risk arising from shipping oil in the rail packages in which it now travels, leakage having in some instances amounted to twenty-per-cent. This, as a matter of fact within our knowledge, oil is at present carried 'in bulk' viz,-from accumulation of leakage during the voyage, in steamers absolutely unfit for this. It permeates below the ceiling and down into the bilges, besides frequently saturating the greater part of the cargo of wooden cases with oil, rendering them highly inflammable. A steamer with the quantity of cases a Tank Steamer carries would be about 20 days discharging, with the grave risk of collision to lighters, taking those dangerous packages from the ship to the shore, and again handling them there. Whereas the cargo of a tank steamer is never for a single moment exposed but goes direct from the vessel, through pipes, into the tanks, and this in a space of less than 24 hours as compared with 20 days occupied by a cargo of cases. The fallacy of your memorialists' arguments cannot... Page 63
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S V#8* II** 63 **38. SAMBEL & CO EGRAPHIC ADDRESS. LEUMAS,LONDON LEPHONE N 4362 TELEGRAPHIC CODES USKO A.B.C. 4th Ed. Scott's Code 6 Ed? 1885 UEL SAMUEL & CO BAT: HAMA. KOBE & TOKID JAPAN Vie Brindisi, SEGRAPHIC ADDRESS. GRGOMANES. C. Q. 16254 31. Houndsliteli. 678 Londenz EU. R15 400 921 · Avast IIth/Y9 2. ·‚Ð ̧Ð ̧«PR blettelæg DISWbA ■W.2.001110 Estnalo) To the Honorable G.J.). Of Brien, C.1% G», HOK KONG Ivoy to dqisser winsɗt ditw egbalwories of ovari of brojajunä bral dent misal of Jerzer basdant d3II edt To Toddal beszorg of bewoLis yan how add jarid arroldoetib diqstzelet Jonrı,33 on rotriwędroger end to tqteser anthaeq,anol anok is alast TWO NO „Joe tdwa en no tmeɛ asd fortevoð er tduob noidserroint TentII 8*qirabzql aid Tot vaolone won el ja visteIoe2 Istnolo) end of beaaeïbbs noljijog Teddwt s to yqoo tært god vifaerrise misgs ew bus otetadt yiqez wo bis,300X зOH atri ao nooa as Torievod end of bedqstgelet ed yam anottovitant navoIni Jand Jaeger of au woLIA „Jos of nottisoq a mi at qidabrol erd bevotae evari ow,e01770 malotou erf yd au revig qied Islbtos ord LIIw voy as bas,nsqst ni zajatniMMH 10 Sonodataas vilt to ogsinsvba yerid,sol770 asteroï et yd beraat somebroqaerioo to vgoo end ya oea Joetava er dittw JabETOVNICO VINguoTodd 918 of nottmedis a'qiɗabrof atɗ LIso Vilstoeqa blow ev mt,.00 [anso seu2ent to arodberta eri yu noqu Jlewb Jost ord -990 Jaum alsaaev eni joritaremseja ert to egsaasq end gntattorit us -BLINSİTOY well Teddie¿¿roq betsluge Llew emoa bebsol ed vitrsaae bris,133 Lordið to aðtos32 ert beaang over yadd tud avots To Strigleb IIIw vent ano ano to 9880 arit ok bns,viavijoeqaer asIlenobisï ede „Iais) seul end aasq od svar edt deɗt yea of ged ow noticariott aʻqtfabrol sin 107 anotast is brus,odiolo) is Ivodiad end at Isco of bewolls ers aromsoja qinabtol sin agonistamworto saert zebnu jau eV .e1oqsan12 je rezsi qmơng vd aử bis IIIw bas noltiaoggo art to ezuten ent odsloeïqqs IIIv rok as --112 IS80.eis +W ‚ansviða Jnelbedo IVOY Si,- We bog to confirm our last lottor to you of the 6th inst,,and find we omitted to answer one further point raised by your petitioners viz, the oxplosion on the s.5,11 Petrolia' ' near Bloye. We bog to udom you that this was caused by czude oil from viilchi every explosiol. on a tant stolmot live chison, and as you know, both the Quel roguilutions & the rules prevailing at Hong Kong 165elf, insure that only rofinca Petroleum six-ll de cerried of tank stunors. have now before us the Arther nenorial under ca.be of July Ist.,192. Thure is to point in thle vhich is not fully deult widı in the copy of correspondence published by the foreign Opvice r. copy of which we addressed you by last meil, and you vill at once soe that your nenorialists invombeen erguing upon entirely false promises. The trade at prosent carried on in casos is doubtlesE for moto dangerous to shipping( 17 indeed there is any derer)than is the transit in mulit The reason of the inception of the muak bis- iness is the prove risk: arising fron shining oll in the rail puclaugos in which it now trevols, lockage hoving in some instances amounted to twenty-per-cont. Imis,as a matter of fact within our ot knowledge oil is at present carried'in bulk'' viz,-from accumulation of leakage during the voyage,in stemmers absolutely wfitted for this.It pormestes below the ceiling and down into the bilges,besides frequently saturating greater part of the cargo of wooden cases with oil,rondering thơm highly inflameble. A steamer with the quantity of cases a Tank Steamer carries would be about 20 days discharging,with the grave risk of collėsion to lighters, taking those dangerous packages from the ship to the shore, and again handling them there. Whereas the cargo of a tank steamer is never for a single moment exposed but çoes direct from the vussel, through pipes, into the tanks, and this in a space of less than 24 hours as compared with 20 days occupied by a cargo of casos. The fallacy of your memoribalsts'aremonts connot
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**38.

SAMBEL & CO

EGRAPHIC ADDRESS. LEUMAS,LONDON

LEPHONE N 4362

TELEGRAPHIC CODES USKO

A.B.C. 4th Ed. Scott's Code 6 Ed? 1885

UEL SAMUEL & CO

BAT:

HAMA. KOBE & TOKID

JAPAN

Vie Brindisi,

SEGRAPHIC ADDRESS.

GRGOMANES.

C. Q.

16254

31. Houndsliteli. 678

Londenz

EU.

R15 400 921

· Avast IIth/Y9 2.

·‚Ð ̧Ð ̧«PR blettelæg DISWbA

■W.2.001110 Estnalo)

To the Honorable G.J.). Of Brien, C.1% G»,

HOK KONG

Ivoy to dqisser winsɗt ditw egbalwories of ovari of brojajunä bral dent misal of Jerzer basdant d3II edt To Toddal beszorg of bewoLis eď yan how add jarid arroldoetib diqstzelet Jonrı,33 on rotriwędroger end to tqteser anthaeq,anol anok is alast TWO NO „Joe tdwa en no tmeɛ asd fortevoð er tduob noidserroint TentII 8*qirabzql aid Tot vaolone won el

ja visteIoe2 Istnolo) end of beaaeïbbs noljijog Teddwt s to yqoo tært god vifaerrise misgs ew bus otetadt yiqez wo bis,300X зOH atri ao nooa as Torievod end of bedqstgelet ed yam anottovitant navoIni Jand Jaeger of au woLIA „Jos of nottisoq a mi at qidabrol erd bevotae evari ow,e01770 malotou erf yd au revig qied Islbtos ord LIIw voy as bas,nsqst ni zajatniMMH 10 Sonodataas vilt to ogsinsvba yerid,sol770 asteroï et yd beraat somebroqaerioo to vgoo end ya oea Joetava er dittw JabETOVNICO VINguoTodd 918

of nottmedis a'qiɗabrof atɗ LIso Vilstoeqa blow ev

mt,.00 [anso seu2ent to arodberta eri yu noqu Jlewb Jost ord -990 Jaum alsaaev eni joritaremseja ert to egsaasq end gntattorit us -BLINSİTOY well Teddie¿¿roq betsluge Llew emoa ♫ bebsol ed vitrsaae bris,133 Lordið to aðtos32 ert beaang over yadd tud avots To Strigleb IIIw vent ano ano to 9880 arit ok bns,viavijoeqaer asIlenobisï ede „Iais) seul end aasq od svar

edt deɗt yea of ged ow noticariott aʻqtfabrol sin 107 anotast is brus,odiolo) is Ivodiad end at Isco of bewolls ers aromsoja qinabtol sin agonistamworto saert zebnu jau eV .e1oqsan12 je rezsi qmơng vd aử bis IIIw bas noltiaoggo art to ezuten ent odsloeïqqs IIIv rok as --112 IS80.eis +W ‚ansviða Jnelbedo IVOY

Si,-

We bog to confirm our last lottor to you of the 6th inst,,and find we omitted to answer one further point raised by your petitioners viz, the oxplosion on the s.5,11 Petrolia' ' near Bloye. We bog to udom you that this was caused by czude oil from viilchi every explosiol. on a tant stolmot live chison, and as you know, both the Quel roguilutions & the rules prevailing at Hong Kong 165elf, insure that only rofinca Petroleum six-ll de cerried of tank stunors.

Vò have now before us the Arther nenorial under ca.be of July Ist.,192. Thure is to point in thle vhich is not fully deult widı in the copy of correspondence published by the foreign Opvice r. copy of which we addressed you by last meil, and you vill at once soe that your nenorialists invombeen erguing upon entirely false promises. The trade at prosent carried on in casos is doubtlesE for moto dangerous to shipping( 17 indeed there is any derer)than is the transit in mulit The reason of the inception of the muak bis- iness is the prove risk: arising fron shining oll in the rail puclaugos in which it now trevols, lockage hoving in some instances amounted to twenty-per-cont. Imis,as a matter of fact within our ot

knowledge oil is at present carried'in bulk'' viz,-from accumulation of leakage during the voyage,in stemmers absolutely wfitted for this.It pormestes below the ceiling and down into the bilges,besides frequently saturating greater part of the cargo of wooden cases with oil,rondering thơm highly inflameble.

A steamer with the quantity of cases a Tank Steamer carries would be about 20 days discharging,with the grave risk of collėsion to lighters, taking those dangerous packages from the ship to the shore, and again handling them there. Whereas the cargo of a tank steamer is never for a single moment exposed but çoes direct from the vussel, through pipes, into the tanks, and this in a space of less than 24 hours as compared with 20 days occupied by a cargo of casos.

The fallacy of your memoribalsts'aremonts connot

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